covering governors, even a couple of presidents, but to get this deep inside, find out exactly what had gone on, which is so contradictory to everything were. >> guest: seek as political reporters. the rule of politics is both guys, women, whatever say they're going to win. they believe with her whole heart. i'm going to win because blah, blah, blah. the other guy says the same thing. no, election night someone loses. always surprising, but we had in the back all the time. that's not the case he. corzine walked into this election in 2009, he was the only voice of his inner circle who thought he even had a fighting chance spirit at what point, january, february? >> i don't remember the exact time. there were two critical meetings that occurred at his business partners luxury apartment in manhattan. one meaning is around the time of the conventions in '08, in august, september.